Monday, August 3, 2009

Polish road signs in the UK ?

It was in the news today that a local authority have put up road signs in Polish to help Polish migrants.





If they are coming to live in this country why can't they learn English? Is this just another


example of barmy councils bending over backwards for the needs of a few and ignoring the majority?





What do you think about it?

Polish road signs in the UK ?
Probably like alot of people I work with many Polish and find them to be hard working and I think they are very welcome here.





It is totally unnecessary to have roadsigns in Polish as those that have come to live here almost always are very good at speaking and reading English. Those that aren't can soon learn the few words that are used on road signs.
Reply:In my country, we've got everything for British people... English named restaurants, pubs, road signs... And nobody complains about it coz we're very helpfull to tourists. We don't want them to get confused when they come over here.We want them to have a good time and enjoy... I don't say they have to speak my language if they wanna come here!! They can even buy their own land and put their own flag up to their roof... Noone complains coz we're indulgent... We like to help them... Those people coming to your country to earn money and look after their family. Unless i know wrong, they work really hard maybe 24 hours a day... So how do you think they will find a time to sit down and learn English. But don't worry they will speak in English at the end coz they live with English people...Don't get too upset, i can understand your concern about it.. . Don't be so touchy.. It's just a help to other people...Everybody has a right to speak their own language.. You can't say they have to speak yours... that's not fair. But still at the end, you end up learning the language coz you have got to communicate with other people. when you go out shopping, when you need to ask something...etc..
Reply:I work with polish drivers but I don't think they should change opr add to our road signs, because there is loads of different people %26amp; cultures in this country, we can't cater for Romanion, Polish, French, German, African etc. etc.





They need to learn the lingo of the counrty there in!


If don't like it then they can go home!
Reply:In France, where I live, there are numerous road signs in English - especially in the areas near Channel ports - reminding drivers to keep right and warning of other hazards. We don't hear British visitors ranting about 'political correctness'. Oh no, that's different, isn't it?
Reply:Barmy Council. Most of them are just potty, and filled with PC do-gooders. Many Ukrainians came to live in and around Derby during the war. Derby library was still filled with Ukrainian books in 1971 when I last lived there. You are right; immigrants should learn English, and councils should start concentrating on real issues.
Reply:THIS PATHETIC COUNTRY dont get me started - I AGREE ANYONE WHO SHOULD COME HERE FROM ABROAD SHOULD LEARN OUR LANGUAGE OUR LAWS AND OUR CULTURE AND ABIDE BY BRITISH LAW- and no we shouldnt bend over backwrds for them - . if we went to a foreign country would there be NO exception for us, I cant see France or spain doing this can you for other countrys driving here . we would need to abide by their laws and their culture and their rules regardless of who they are in terms of war allies. If they cant understand our language or the road signs they shouldnt be on the road ........aggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh have the council not got anything better to spend the tax payers money on - ??? AND PLEASE PAUL B quit with the political speil.....!the war was 60 years ago, what has that got to do with road signs YAWN
Reply:Hey, we go to any furking foreign country we have to learn the lingo or get lost. Same should apply here.


I mean look at France. Their road signs are almost non-existent anyway, are they bilingual? Are they buggery!
Reply:ENGLISH ROAD SIGNS ONLY. No to road signs in any language other than English. If the Poles (and all other scroungers) work illegally or legally in the UK, then learn the bloody language. If they don't like, then go back to Poland. It's a disgrace that a far left of left wing council would even dream of spending the tax payers money in such a frivoulous way, when it's clearly needed elsewhere - health perhaps? Hopefully, some one will rip the signs down. When In Rome, and all that.
Reply:other non english speaking countries has english translated road signs for tourists and for english speaking people.. uk is not the only country!! why is it so big problem.. it didnt bother other people.. be open new things
Reply:next time you go to spain are you gonna learn spanish?





when my polish grandad was a teen he was told if he didnt join the german army then his family would be killed. he had no choice, he has not seen or heard from his family in poland since that day.





when he got over here he led a group of lads and men and snuck over to the english trenches in the night with white flags and their hands up and crying. they took with them maps and plans from the german army. 2 of his friends were shot on the way and 2 others turned back as they were too scared.





he has stayed in this country ever since and will not return home as he has no home back in poland. he wont talk about the war.





he speaks perfect english, german, italian and of course polish.





how many of you can say you are fluent in 4 languages? he is a very proud man and rarely speaks anything other than english. he doesnt need polish signs but i'm sure he would appreciate them for the other polish that have not learnt the language yet.





he has just celebrated his 80th birthday and now needs an operation on his heart or he will die. he has already had 2 triple heart bypasses, the last was 10 years ago.





i am so proud of him for being so brave and having the guts to do the right thing. if he had not switched sides then i would not be here.





the polish come here to work, not as refugees or trying to get a free houseand money for all their families. they come here as skilled workers and are headhunted in poland.





again get all your facts right before condemning them.
Reply:its crap isnt it


but yes its more political corectness gone mad


they should either know english or not come
Reply:Political correctness gone mad. This is not about racisium or discrimination. If you go to live in America, New Zealand and no doubt many other countries you must take one of their tests within a limited period of time if you want to drive on their roads. Why in this country when councils constantly complain about lack of funds do we spend money on Polish signs when we should be making the Poles take a UK driving test.
Reply:I have nothing against the Poles but this news report worried me because it brought to light the fact that there are people in this country who cannot read road signs. I have visions of a forest of road signs in all the languages that are spoken in this country, ruining the view and probably causing a hell of a lot of accidents. There will obviously be pressure from other ethnic groups for the same service, you just know it. Mind how you go.
Reply:You say you read this in the "news". Was it actually a newspaper or one of those comics (like The Sun)? I bet anything that when the dust settles this will have been a storm in a tea cup.


Still, it gives all the racist little twerps on Answers yet another wonderful opportunity to indulge their tiny little brains in another droning session. Which "paper" was it?





Storm in a tea cup folks!
Reply:Likely to be an "urban myth". What "official" roadsigns can show is set out in law. English in England; bilingual in Wales and who knows what its Scotland? :-)
Reply:It's not for immigrants, it's for Polish lorry drivers trying to find the way to Holyhead. How does this spoil your life, then? Why do you, as a majority, feel ignored? Have they abolished English?





I take it that when you travel to Wales you don't expect dual signing on the roads, or have you been bothered to learn Welsh?





I think it's a sensible idea if it makes the roads a little safer, and if it pisses off racists and little Englanders, then that's an added bonus.
Reply:The reason supporting the use of a handful of temporary road signs was also explained. In recent months Polish drivers have driven past English closure signs causing chaos on busy road re-construction sites whilst also putting the workforce at risk. The cost to the taxpayer due to the lost time alone makes it well worth putting out a handful of signs. If a road worker was to be killed in such an incident the cost to society would be massive. No question that the County Council did the right thing. Other highway authorities should take note.
Reply:So is it really for Polish migrants or Polish lorry drivers? Pity you didn't give a web address where we could check it out for ourselves.





Having said that, in parts of Tower Hamlets the roadsigns are in English and Bengali; and the Bangladeshis have lived here for forty years. In fact the majority were born here.
Reply:i think you got a point.
Reply:I agree that anyone wishing to live here should at least learn the lingo
Reply:Well this shows how dim people can be, because ALL European road-signs have a standard format if they are related to specific warnings or instructions, and they can be understood internationally.





This means that any "Polish road-signs" would have to be additional ones for specific purposes, such as may be found at docks, where trucks have to enter specific areas, go into specific lanes of traffic or follow quite complex instructions. In such cases, it is quite common to find signs written also in French and German, alongside English, which are the three other principal langauges of the EU. Because Polish is a Slavic language, it will be understood by Czech, Slovaks, Hungarians, Poles, Croatians, Bosnians, Albanians and people from other countries also.





That said, there are certain road-signs which are not restricted to symbols alone, but use words, and these can be very difficult for foreign-drivers. Where there is a high concentration of foreign-drivers such as at docks, airports and industrial areas, anything which assists traffic-flow and safety is a good thing, not a bad one.





There is now a very high volume of traffic moving backwards and forwards to and from the EU, and anything which assists that process is entirely welcome.





Perhaps the questioner should take the time to read better-quality journalism and learn the INTERNATIONALLY AGREED road-sign symbols, before accusing anyone of anything.
Reply:It does seem strange. However if it prevents accidents or makes our lives easier then it can't all be bad.





People should learn the language of the country where they live/work. However maybe it's all to easy for us to say since we are lucky that English is such a widely spoken language.





Going back many years places of interest around the world had erect signs written in English for holiday makers and foreign workers.





In Wales and place in Ireland they have signs written in different languages. Likewise on the borders of some European countries.





It is a blame on the local authorities for proving so much help that there is no real need to learn english. Having said that anger should be directed towards our leaders and councils, not the poor Polish Truck Driver who's trying to earn his bread.
Reply:its a forking joke i wish they would fork off back to their dirty country
Reply:i fear they might say some day to us to learn polish.........its realy stupid...do in rome as roman does...so if any one wants to live in enland(uk) should learn english
Reply:This country is English. Our language is English. Our road signs should be in English. If people want to come to this country for our freebies the least they can do is learn to speak, read %26amp; write in English. Is it too much to ask?
Reply:It is sooooooooooooooo stupid of our country - I'm fine with Gaelic etc but these are our languges. I cannot believe we are going to spend more tax on these people. It's really awful. Either they speak English and read it or they shouldn't be in this country. We are far tooooo soft.



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