Polish immigrants (plumbers)?

There is quite a lot of flack against Polish people in the UK(I'm not polish). But who would you rather have Polska Paul who works his a*s off all day who comes at 7PM and leaves late, or British Bob who comes and goes comes and goes does half of the work and charges triple?





What do you think?

Polish immigrants (plumbers)?
Hey,If I were British I would go for a qualified countryman providing the charge isn't triple.Why don`t you support your own people?
Reply:Wladek is not Polish. Report It

Reply:There's quite a high number of Polish people where I live and they are very hard working %26amp; polite people. I would rather have them do the work!!!
Reply:I want the person who is qualified to do the job correctly.
Reply:Ladymoon : You say that your husband cannot find a good paying job. My wife and I had been living abroad for a while and when we came back we found that although we were both very well qualified we could not find work due to our ages. I was 57 and my wife 52. We both took jobs at the minimum wage. Me showing cars on ferries at a ferry port and her as a receptionist for a one man concern. Within weeks my employees saw potential in me and gave me a better job. The same thing with my wife. I then found another job (people like employing people that are employed). I retired 2 years ago and started my own business and my wife is purchasing manager of a big company.(by the way she was a qualified drafts-man so never did this job before she came back).


You have 17000 points in just over a year which means that you live on your computer. So that makes two of you that are on some sort of benefit.


Who do you think pays for that. The answer is anybody that works. This includes Poles.
Reply:i couldn't give a toss
Reply:Funnily enough, most of the Polish people I meet in Edinburgh are professional people (lawyers, academics, IT professionals, e.t.c) or students. I suppose the type of immigrants you come across depends on where you live and your social circles mind you.





I would certainly rather have people who are prepared to work hard to earn their living than people who aren't, but I think this idea of home grown British workers being work shy, lazy or slipshod is very unfair as well. As usual it's a small minority giving the silent majority a bad name. Also it's worth keeping in mind that hard work is not necessarily equivalent to good quality work.





I certainly value the contribution that legal immigrant workers make in Britain, but most home grown British workers are just as hard working and diligent.
Reply:No contest - British Bob any day. British Bob speaks English, works to current BRITISH regulations and can be held accountable for any future problems should they arise. As where Polska Paul might be cheap but when you find he's installed your boiler wrongly and its illegal - Polska Paul wont understand and next thing he's done a runner before you can sue xxx
Reply:I'd rather have the bloke that knows how plumbing is done in the UK.


I used to work on a crew that went round building sites fixing the things the poles had f**ked up.
Reply:Depends who has the best skills. And obviously there's comunication. If the Pole doesnt speak any English, you would be in trouble!
Reply:What a stupid question. Don't insult the British tradesmen. You may get dodgy ones but you know there are many honest people who rely on a good name for their wages.


I have had really good British tradesmen give excellent service.


What is with the myth that poles work harder and better. I work in a factory full of them and they are no different from the British they just want the money that is their drive being here.
Reply:i've worked with quite a few polish on sites here in ireland and i have to say the majority of them play the game, they get paid shi't wages so why do the extra time to ensure a quality job. its the foremans job to check on them. but i have to say most of their work is pretty piss poor. but i have no problem with them or their work. i'd be happy to see the new builds fall on top of the heads of the greedy developers.
Reply:British Bob because by hiring him you are helping him pay his mortgage and look after his kids. By hiring Polska Paul you are sending money back to Poland and helping to put British Bob (who could be your next door neighbour or a friend of yours) out of work, contributing to him losing his home and leaving his wife and kids with nothing.





I'm sorry if it sounds wrong or harsh but I like to look after my own. Poland can look after theirs. I will never hire a Polish plumber. British all the way. You have to pay more to get the best.





Actually when we need plumbing work done we hire a friend of my partner's who qualified as a plumber last year and who can't get work because of all the competition. He's now working in a pub to pay the rent and very demoralised - all he wants is a chance to work and use the skills he gained in college. So we give him whatever work we can. Polska Paul will NEVER get a penny out of me!





Actually "Eastern EU" our home was not repossessed as we managed to save it (if you had bothered to read my previous question you would have seen this) and the reason we could not "pay our mortagage" is because my partner is unable to get a decent paid job, probably because of the flood of Eastern European leeches currently sucking the blood out of our employment market. I may be poor but I have my standards. I will NEVER employ a Polish plumber! I look after my own like I said. I will pay more if I have to just to make sure another British family does not have to go through what I have. Unlike you I have standards and care about more than just money.
Reply:Bob for me where did these polish train for a start also i wouldnt want them in my house touching my stuff who knows that they aint moving the rest of the family into your front door while your in the kitchen making a brew.


Its not very often you find a bob thats does half a job these days as they do have the polish to compete with
Reply:You should ask how many people have been killed or injured by poles driving hgvs without a proper licence and totaly disregard tachograph law.Also how many have disappeared back to poland before they can be prosecuted.Or eastern European truck mechanics that think the only tool you need to service trucks is a bloody pen
Reply:I personally would like a plumber to turn up on time and give a fair price.
Reply:British Bob because he's here to stay and get the job done. Polsksa Paul is only in it for a passport and benefits.
Reply:obviously the polish guy... it's a general rule that immigrant often work harder.
Reply:good old bob for me anytime, why is there such a myth that Poles do such great jobs ??
Reply:Rather the Polish one obviously.
Reply:the polish guy. Because im gonna rip the head off the english guy who installed a shower for my mother at an extortionate price. Hard to plumb with broken fingers!
Reply:I think it's an economic issue: everyone wants the best quality for the best price, it doesn't matter if it's Polish, English, Chinese, Japanese, Zimbabwean or Marsian.


And it is not a political problem, it is all about the leaking tape.





Ladymoonlight, you see, your tap has probably been still leaking after that and you had to pay 4x as much, as you would otherwise. Is this why you could not pay your mortgage and your home was repossessed (as per one of your previous questions) ?





Ladymoonlight, I could not have look at all your Q%26amp;A, as you've made it private. In one of them I read before, you stated your husband is an unskilled worker. Maybe that is the reason why he cannot find a job according to his/ yours demands and aspirations? News for you: it takes more to get a good offer on the modern job market than just nationality and unjustified high self-esteem. You were also complaining he could not improve his skills because you struggle for money and someone else advised you how and where to obtain the financial support. Taking into consideration the fact you husband is highly intelligent (as you stated in your answer to the one of my questions), what is the problem with him going to the college to do some courses? Again Eastern Europeans, or plain laziness? C'mon...


Let's leave your husband, then...


You said something about your standards, I am going to ask you, what they are? I see only arrogance, ignorance and ingratitude. I am sure as hell, you're one of these numerous Englanders who claim loads of children benefits, unemployment benefits, tax credits, job seekers allowances and God knows, what else, yet they are still moaning and complaining about the people like me and other immigrants here who contribute heavily to the system. We feed you and others similar to you, and I did not take a broken penny back, nor I have ever desired one. And what is given back to us, instead of gratefulness? Hostility, nothing else.


Last contradiction: money is not everything for you? Fine, but why are you still complaining you have not got enough dosh?
Reply:I don't really care;)



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